Phillies' 2023 GDT #41: 05/15/23 Phillies(20-20) @ Giants(17-23) - 9:45pm

[Christopher]

Needed to get more than 1 run there.

[bigel57]

Turner is really awful. Wow,is he bad!

[Christopher]

THE VAUNTED SHORTSTOPS

Bogaerts .787 OPS (1.4 WAR)
Swanson .785 OPS (1.9 WAR)
Turner .717 OPS (1.0 WAR)
Correa .686 OPS (0.2 WAR)

Twins are the only team that signed a big SS and is over .500

[Captain Obvious]

Turner is really awful. Wow,is he bad!

Yeah everyone said the same thing about Castellanos last year too.

[Christopher]

Well hopefully we don't have to wait until 2024 for Turner to simply achieve an .850 OPS

[Captain Obvious]

Well hopefully we don't have to wait until 2024 for Turner to simply achieve an .850 OPS

This is true.

I just don't get the "He's a bum. Why did we sign him?" After 6 weeks of ball in a 162 game season. I just take it as the ebb and flow of the season. You'll have good games and bad. Good and bad streaks.

[Christopher]

I don't think it's too soon for these kinds of calculations. With the parity in the NL this year, I think it will only take about 87 wins again for the third wild card.

To get to 87, the Phillies have to go 67-54 the rest of the way (.554). And they've already played a lot of games against the "softies" on the schedule.

Turner must be a factor in a good share of wins the rest of the way.

[bigel57]

Well hopefully we don't have to wait until 2024 for Turner to simply achieve an .850 OPS

This is true.

I just don't get the "He's a bum. Why did we sign him?" After 6 weeks of ball in a 162 game season. I just take it as the ebb and flow of the season. You'll have good games and bad. Good and bad streaks.

Obviously,Cap..Just commenting on his performance thus far with the expectation based on past performance and over- the- top contract
Striking out way too much vis a vis OPS,RISP,and not great defensively
I understand ebbs and flows. One quarter of the season gone,all ebb thus far

[Captain Obvious]

Well hopefully we don't have to wait until 2024 for Turner to simply achieve an .850 OPS

This is true.

I just don't get the "He's a bum. Why did we sign him?" After 6 weeks of ball in a 162 game season. I just take it as the ebb and flow of the season. You'll have good games and bad. Good and bad streaks.

Obviously,Cap..Just commenting on his performance thus far with the expectation based on past performance and over- the- top contract
Striking out way too much vis a vis OPS,RISP,and not great defensively
I understand ebbs and flows. One quarter of the season gone,all ebb thus far

Yeah I get it. I just don't get too fired up about it though.

Now, year three rolls around and this cat is hitting .240 in July? Thats a problem.

[bigel57]

This is true.

I just don't get the "He's a bum. Why did we sign him?" After 6 weeks of ball in a 162 game season. I just take it as the ebb and flow of the season. You'll have good games and bad. Good and bad streaks.

Obviously,Cap..Just commenting on his performance thus far with the expectation based on past performance and over- the- top contract
Striking out way too much vis a vis OPS,RISP,and not great defensively
I understand ebbs and flows. One quarter of the season gone,all ebb thus far

Yeah I get it. I just don't get too fired up about it though.

Now, year three rolls around and this cat is hitting .240 in July? Thats a problem.

3 years? He’ll be Enemy #1 if this is his profile in July