Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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bigel57
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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Yeah,but better than Kennedy.
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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10 million for one year. Which is totally fine but at that point just match Hector's deal or sign Graveman too.
bigel57
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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Graveman got $24 mil for 3 years Too rich IMO...Hoping that Brogdon can be that guy I’m guessing
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They need more than one guy in the pen and giving 10 million to a guy who has thrown 39 innings in the last three years as their "big move" seems a bit strange.
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Big names out there and the Phils need a lot. No help coming from the farm system. Braves and Mets will be better........and the Phils are dumpster diving.
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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I do like Knebel though, he's very good. Their approach to everything (as always) just seems strange.
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If they're trying to contend AND stay under what the 2021 "cap" was, then Knebel for 1/10 is not a good use of coin.

So I will give them the benefit of the doubt (LOL) and assume this means their payroll in 2022 will go over the cap (LOL)

Bring on many more signings
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Christopher wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:50 pm If they're trying to contend AND stay under what the 2021 "cap" was, then Knebel for 1/10 is not a good use of coin.

So I will give them the benefit of the doubt (LOL) and assume this means their payroll in 2022 will go over the cap (LOL)

Bring on many more signings
I agree with you there on all of that. Also sort of dumb to think about if they are going over the cap it doesn't make a lot of sense to not at least match Neris' deal considering how many RPs they need.
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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Knebel basically replaces Neris. The only good thing is that it's just one year.
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Re: Philadelphia Phillies 2021 Offseason

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Christopher wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:50 pm If they're trying to contend AND stay under what the 2021 "cap" was, then Knebel for 1/10 is not a good use of coin.

So I will give them the benefit of the doubt (LOL) and assume this means their payroll in 2022 will go over the cap (LOL)

Bring on many more signings
I honestly think they will if the players want to come to Philly. They honestly dont have a choice IMO. If you are already spending 210M under the cap...then spending 50M over the cap only costs you 270M total. If you spend that extra 50M (60M w/tax), isn't it worth it???...think of all the extra ticket sales you are going to get, not to mention the court of public opinion. So IMO, it is a loss of money if they keep the payroll right at the tax but not going over...if that makes sense.

So sign Bryant 7/170M 24.2M AAV
sign Schwarber 4/65M 16.25M AAV
Put about $25M towards pitching

That should leave them about 10-15M to finish out the roster/bench

Do it
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