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Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:28 pm
by FolesMVP09
bigel57 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:25 pm
Never liked Gibson from jump last year.
He is a 5th starter - and is adequate for a 5th starter
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:35 pm
by bigel57
Less than adequate,IMHO
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:38 pm
by Ben Grimm
FolesMVP09 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:28 pm
bigel57 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:25 pm
Never liked Gibson from jump last year.
He is a 5th starter - and is adequate for a 5th starter
Agreed. Except for that anomaly where he pitched in the 2's somehow for Texas before coming here, he was a 4.5+ ERA pitcher his entire career. He's a back of the rotation guy who once in a while has his moments. He's off the books next year and Efflin should be as well (no way do the Phils pick up that option). $60M or so should be opening up after this season. I'd pick up Nola's option or try to do a three-year extension. Segura can walk. Gonna need bullpen help again this offseason.
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:43 pm
by FolesMVP09
bigel57 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:35 pm
Less than adequate,IMHO
Had a crappy game today, but is WAR was 1.0 prior to today
Not everyone is a top of the line player.
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:51 pm
by Ben Grimm
What do you guys think of Ian Happ as a CF for the next year and a half? I cannot see a rebuilding Cubs team paying him $10M next season as he'll be in his 3rd arbitration year. Defensively, he's not as good as Odubel was early in Odubel's career. But he's better than Odubel is now. He's also a much more rounded hitter. Let's face it, Mickey's not gonna do it and there's nothing in the pipeline that looks like a quick fix. Maybe you take somebody like Kyle Hendricks off their hands to replace either Efflin or Gibson with Chicago paying $3M of Hendrick's salary for the remainder of '22 & $6M for '23. That would save the Cubs approximately $12M and will reduce what the Phillies would need to send as so far as players in the deal for Happ.
Just tossin' stuff out there.
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:59 pm
by FolesMVP09
Ben Grimm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:51 pm
What do you guys think of Ian Happ as a CF for the next year and a half? I cannot see a rebuilding Cubs team paying him $10M next season as he'll be in his 3rd arbitration year. Defensively, he's not as good as Odubel was early in Odubel's career. But he's better than Odubel is now. He's also a much more rounded hitter. Let's face it, Mickey's not gonna do it and there's nothing in the pipeline that looks like a quick fix. Maybe you take somebody like Kyle Hendricks off their hands to replace either Efflin or Gibson with Chicago paying $3M of Hendrick's salary for the remainder of '22 & $6M for '23. That would save the Cubs approximately $12M and will reduce what the Phillies would need to send as so far as players in the deal for Happ.
Just tossin' stuff out there.
Ian Happ would be a upgrade
Then again so would JA Happ...
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:02 pm
by Ben Grimm
FolesMVP09 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:59 pm
Ben Grimm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:51 pm
What do you guys think of Ian Happ as a CF for the next year and a half? I cannot see a rebuilding Cubs team paying him $10M next season as he'll be in his 3rd arbitration year. Defensively, he's not as good as Odubel was early in Odubel's career. But he's better than Odubel is now. He's also a much more rounded hitter. Let's face it, Mickey's not gonna do it and there's nothing in the pipeline that looks like a quick fix. Maybe you take somebody like Kyle Hendricks off their hands to replace either Efflin or Gibson with Chicago paying $3M of Hendrick's salary for the remainder of '22 & $6M for '23. That would save the Cubs approximately $12M and will reduce what the Phillies would need to send as so far as players in the deal for Happ.
Just tossin' stuff out there.
Ian Happ would be a upgrade
Then again so would JA Happ...
Sad... but kinda true.
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:03 pm
by mrmountie
Gibson is probably my least favorite type of pitcher. Mediocre and slow as shit. At least work fast if you're going to be boring.
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:44 pm
by BelmontShore
New game, bitches!!
Re: Phillies' 2022 GDT #79: 07/02/22 Cardinals(43-36) @ Phillies(41-37) - 4:05pm
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:44 pm
by BelmontShore
mrmountie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:03 pm
Gibson is probably my least favorite type of pitcher. Mediocre and slow as shit. At least work fast if you're going to be boring.
My God. It's impossible.