Phillies' 2023 GDT #22: 04/22/23 Rockies(6-15) @ Phillies(9-12) - 3:05pm

[bigel57]

I think it's fair to question/criticize Turner thus far. We need WBC version Trea pronto.
But I'm not ready to start saying Bogaerts was the better fit, especially when the comparison are a hot start (Bogaerts) vs. a mediocre start (Turner).

They have essentially the same contract (11/280 vs. 11/300) and I think a lot of people in that context thing Bogaerts was overpaid by San Diego, which may have been looking to protect itself in what were, at the time, concerns about Machado and/or Tatis.

There was a lot of talk in the winter of how the various free agents would age with contracts that take them to the end of their 30s. Most folks really likes Turner best in that regard, even making comparisons with Barry Larkin.

There's defense. Turner is no Rollins or Larkin. But he's better than Bogaerts. In fact there's a lot of talk that Bogaerts will have to move from SS within the next 2-3 years. If that's possibly the case, do you give the guy 11 years?

Bottom line is that it's early. But, yeah, you guys are right. Turner needs to step up. As do the guys around him. I suspect that Turner becomes more dangerous when the pitchers are more worried about the guys around him in the order. Right now they're not.

Turner ,right on cue ..Another abysmal AB in a big spot. Really need to add on with Kimbrel probably closing

[Christopher]

Yeah, you won't find me defending him at this point.
He's better than this and needs to show it.

[Christopher]

I think they want to hurry up and get Kimbrel to his 400th save, but I wish they'd do it with 3-run leads.

[bigel57]

I think they want to hurry up and get Kimbrel to his 400th save, but I wish they'd do it with 3-run leads.

Absolutely no confidence in Kimbrel…However,this offense will have cost them if he blows

[bigel57]

Whew…had ‘em all the way,boys…Can Wheeler be an Ace tomorrow. Good Saturday night,guys

[Christopher]

Absolutely need tomorrow too. Not going anywhere if we can win 3 of 4 at home vs. Rockies.

Phillies can let the teams with hot starts get too far ahead of them. I didn't peg us for 5 games behind the Pirates on April 22.